The usual Virgin Media punditry line up of Joe Molloy, Rob Kearney, Andrew Trimble, and Matt Williams were giving their takes after Wales' 17-29 Six Nations defeat of Italy this afternoon.
It was a performance full of hair-pulling errors from Italy, where it seemed like they were doing everything in their power not to score against a poor Welsh side.
Number eight Lorenzo Cannone and left wing Pierre Bruno were both shown yellow cards, with Bruno lucky not to see red for a high forearm on Wales' Wyn Jones, and the incident was a major talking point both on the pitch and in the studio.
Referee Damon Murphy initially believed that the contact with the arm began on Jones' chest, and therefore was a yellow card. However, TMO Joy Neville felt that the contact was to the neck and lead Murphy in the direction of a red card.
After another discussion with his assistants, Murphy decided that Bruno only pushed his fore arm into Jones and decided on a yellow card.
In the studio, Kearney sided with Neville, while Williams saw merits to both arguments.
Both pundits did agree that a new law that is currently being trialled in Super Rugby should be brought in to save time in those situations.
The law allows TMOs to upgrade the card to a red while the player is in the bin, in situations where the punishment is at least a yellow but could be a red.
Matt Williams Wants Introduction Of Southern Hemisphere Trial Law
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Should Pierre Bruno have been given a red card instead of a yellow for his forearm to the neck of Wyn Jones in Rome?
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"Can I say one thing, if that's the Southern Hemisphere, it's a yellow card, go off, and the TMO has ten minutes to decide if it gets kicked up to a red," said Williams.
"And that's what it should be because we're asking our officials to make...look at us talking here, we can't even quite get to the bottom of it.
"Yellow card go off. In the Southern Hemisphere, the TMO says no it's a red and that can be changed under the new rules.
"I think it's a good trial, very worthwhile."