Things got a little bit heated in the Virgin Sport studios, following a tense Autumn Nations Series clash between Ireland and Australia.
The game finished 13-10, with Ireland scraping a win thanks to a 76th minute Ross Byrne penalty.
During the match, however, Australia's Nic White received two knocks to the head in quick succession, both of which he was assessed for on the pitch.
During the assessment for the second knock, the scrumhalf could be seen stumbling twice, before he left the field for a HIA assessment.
However, much to everyone's surprise, he came back onto the field after being looked at by an independent doctor.
Disagreement In The Virgin Studios
After the match, Joe Molloy and Rob Kearney were in total disagreement with Matt Williams over the incident.
"For me that's pretty uncomfortable viewing," said Kearney. "There's so much talk about concussion in our game. We're watching documentaries, we're hearing of legal court cases.
I've had a few concussions in my career and sometimes wonder am I going to be ok in five/ten years time. I look at an image like that and it's tough to watch.
We've a little bit of disagreement in this studio when it happened, but there is no way he should be returning to the field of play.
"I totally disagree," Williams responded. "We're not doctors, we talk about scrums, we talk about lineouts I'm all over it. He goes off to an independent doctor, he has doctors look at the footage.
And there could be a a hundred and one reasons why he stumbles. He's just got smashed inside a ruck and got a hit. It hurts, it hurts your ribs, it hurts.
I'm not defending it. I'm just saying it's not our place to judge because it is a medical decision.
"But, do you know climate change? We gotta trust the science. Medical, we've got to trust the science. He goes in and doctors with protocols allow him to go back on.
Joe Molloy And Rob Kearney vs Matt Williams
Debate on Nick White incident tonight.
Rob Kearney and Matt Williams in real disagreement with how it was handled.
Rob: 🗣 "There is no way he should be returning to the field of play."
Matt: 🗣 "I totally disagree. We're not doctors!"#IREvAUS | #ANS pic.twitter.com/KUwfL323dY— Virgin Media Sport (@VMSportIE) November 19, 2022
Joe Molloy is on the ball and Matt Williams is so far off! The situation around Nic White and his HIA should be the biggest talking point if rugby wants to survive
— Jonny Holland (@jonnyholland10) November 19, 2022
This guy is a total idiot. There is a duty of care and Nick White should not have been allowed back on. I’ve been concussed and said I’m ok, and was let play on. I remember nothing of tht game or day. #IREvsAUS Matt Williams is a clown, end of. @VirginMediaIE pic.twitter.com/qCl78QTbIN
— Michael Wynne (@mickwynne) November 19, 2022
Nic White being allowed back onto that pitch was a disgrace. Matt Williams talkin thru his hoop. The dude couldn't walk straight. #IREvAUS
— Colm Corcoran (@cokesdonegal) November 19, 2022
Matt Williams way off the mark on concussion discussion. There will be no medic or independent doctors at thousands of club and underage games every week. If concussion is to be taken serious then the Aus player should not have come back on. #IREvAUS
— Niall Connolly (@NcFuerty) November 19, 2022
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Joe Molloy then got in on the action and the presenter appeared frustrated at Matt Williams, as they argued it out.
Molloy: "The HIA's irrelevant, err on the side of caution, off you come, end of, next player on. It's open and shut I think, I think real questions have to be asked after this."
Williams: "Look I just do not agree. And I've also got to say. "
Molloy: "What part don't you agree with?"
Williams: "This is not the major talking point from this game."
Molloy: "It is, it is Matt."
Williams: "No journalists love this stuff."
Molloy: "No Matt."
Williams: "Journalists love this stuff."
Molloy: "This is the talking point, it is."
Williams: "It is not. Australia lost five players from injury and they hung in there. You know there was a whole lot of other things. Should he have come on or not? We have to wait and ask the doctors."
Kearney: "This is the single biggest risk to the future of rugby union."
Williams: "I agree with you."
Kearney: "So then it is the biggest talking point."
Williams: "No it's not. Because we are not the doctors. We've got to trust the science. So the doctors are the science."
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